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so you are saying that (2.00 / 1)

Obama supporters are democrats and and Clinton supporters are not?


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:34:45 AM EST
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Problem is that voting is not (none / 0)

monolithic. Republicans votes for Democrats & Republicans, Independents votes for Democrats & Republicans, Democrats votes for Democrats & Republicans.

At the end of the day, it all depends on the candidates. Obama supporters have so hated the Clinton supporters that they've turned against him. You reap what you sow.

You get what you pay for.


It's an election, not an auction.
by cosbo on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:41:56 AM EST
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In what previous election has a primary opponent's (2.00 / 1)

supporters lead to the wide-spread desertion of party members.  This doesn't make sense.  Why would so many abandon their principles on the Court, Iraq, the economy b/c their primary candidate lost?  That happens every election.  Why in this one are these people operating so contrary to past primary electorates?


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:00:40 PM EST
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Because the primaries have now... (none / 0)

been defined along racial lines. Don't you get it?

That's the key difference this time round. Racial division. Right now it's only in the primary. In  the fall, it will be in the general.


It's an election, not an auction.
by cosbo on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:19:53 PM EST
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You don't have to buy into an attempt to divide... (2.00 / 1)

by race.  It's not a requirement.  Choose the Democratic candidate (Hillary or Barack) and we'll be fine.  It's not like I don't expect to the Republicans to try to divide along racial lines.  I just don't believe people are so willing to accept a candidate that will destroy this country b/c they're afraid of a black man.  You can either damn this country to McCain or vote for the policies and principles of the Democratic Party.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:08:04 PM EST
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It's not me you have to worry about... (none / 0)

it's the 65% of white working voters in IN & 67% of them in NC, that you have to worry about.


It's an election, not an auction.
by cosbo on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:31:53 PM EST
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Primary elections are not GE... (2.00 / 1)

Are there hurt feelings? Yeah.  Is it going to be more work to bring some of these people back into the fold? Yes.  That doesn't mean that we assume that they're gone.  It doesn't fit the pattern and thus I don't think it's going to happen.  Do you know how many former McCain supporters said they would vote for McCain over Bush in 2000? Around 30%.  Do you know how Republicans voted for Bush in 2000? Close to 95%.  There are hurt feelings and people are going to rail, but I don't see these people are going to go with McCain when he's not offering anything.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:53:52 PM EST
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I know democrats... (2.00 / 1)

boomers who are going to vote McCain or stay home in the fall. Why, because they have quote "no confidence in Obama as their leader" They don't think he's done anything to deserve the presidency except being popular & black and they're not going to vote for  him.

Sorry. I heard of on man who's going to vote for McCain because he thinks Cindy McCain is beautiful. You guys expect rationality in presidential choices and that's just not how it's going to be.


It's an election, not an auction.
by cosbo on Fri May 09, 2008 at 03:25:57 PM EST
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I don't expect rationality... (none / 0)

I just expect the pattern to fit.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Sat May 10, 2008 at 02:42:57 AM EST
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So you're saying (none / 0)

Clinton supporters won't vote for Obama because he's black?  How insulting to them.


by JJE on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:33:15 PM EST
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Re: Problem is that voting is not (2.00 / 1)

EXCUSE me?

I've done nothing but see Obama supporters reach out and try to bridge this gap, and what have I gotten in return here? I had a Clinton supporter suggest my daughter should be raped because it'd serve me right for supporting Obama.

You sir, take your friggin' high horse and leave. Vote for McCain for all I care. If you're so deluded you think it's OBAMA supporters who've been hating, then I want nothing to do with you; the Republicans deserve you.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:37:11 PM EST
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